Alien Movie Universe

Alien Covenant Is the Perfect 'Bridge' Movie

4204 Views11 Replies
Forum Topic

Ati

MemberPraetorianMay-27-2017 3:40 PM

Yeah, there are a lot of people who think that the movie lacks some answers concerning the Engineers, but I think it was time to enjoy an Alien movie focusing on the origins of the xenomorph. And I'm happy with the AI story line as well.

I believe Alien Covenant is a perfect bridge movie between Prometheus and the next chapter. I'm sure every question regarding the Engineer background will be focused in the future Alien movies, so... Engineer fans, don't worry. If you get every answer in a movie, why would you wait for the next chapter???

For me, Covenant is a visual bomb, I hope an extended version will be released in the future.

11 Replies

dk

MemberTrilobiteMay-27-2017 3:43 PM

I haven't seen it yet but know enough that I can agree. I think the next big questions are the Jockey, eggs and how it got hugged and crashed.

Lone

MemberPraetorianMay-27-2017 3:57 PM

I hope the Blu-ray has a behind the scenes equivalent of The Furious Gods...that is so epic!

Like with Prometheus, there's sure to be a ton of deleted scenes for everyone to drool over and wish they had been included in the theatrical cut!!  

THE LONE GUNWOMAN

"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger

Starlogger

MemberChestbursterMay-27-2017 3:58 PM

@ati so agree. It was exactly what the PUBLIC wanted, whether everyone will agree it was a "great film" is always going to be argued. However, it supported the brand, and gave the fans and fanboys what they wanted---an "Alien" movie with real freaking Aliens.

So it accomplished that and now Ridley and Co. are free to explore even MORE options. There ain't nothing wrong with that!

@Lone I know! I want ALL of it, and, in the words of the late great Freddie Mercury---"I want it NOW!"

Engineer Tech Brett

MemberOvomorphMay-27-2017 4:54 PM

@Ati

I hope so as well. I would love a film that focus' on the Engineers next time round. Wouldn't mind a story where the Engineers are pissed at David.

Viddy well, little brother. Viddy well.

dk

MemberTrilobiteMay-27-2017 4:57 PM

Starlogger Agree. I want it all and I want it now. I don't care if it is 3 1/2 hours long.

Ati

MemberPraetorianMay-27-2017 5:03 PM

Engineer Tech Brett - I would love it. Some clever space battle scenes, awesome spaceships, etc. Ridley mentioned something about a possible war scenario if I remember well. It would be something different again, I hope it will be reality soon.

Starlogger - I want it in six months. I'm modest. :)

dk - Yes, 4 hours would be OK. :)

dk

MemberTrilobiteMay-27-2017 5:10 PM

Not sure it is everyone's thing here, but I am a big fan of The Good, The Bad and The Ugly- it was over 3 hrs and very enjoyable and engaging. That was done waaayyy back when. We seem to have smaller attention spans in general these days.

Falconer

MemberOvomorphMay-27-2017 11:56 PM

I agree with you Ati. When all the pieces land for Ridley's trilogy A:C will be much more appreciated than it is now. People who don't like it either didn't look deep enough beyond the surface of what the film offered, or are too caught up in what they expected to see. 

Michelle Johnston

MemberChestbursterMay-28-2017 12:15 PM

@Falconer

"People who don't like it either didn't look deep enough beyond the surface of what the film offered, or are too caught up in what they expected to see".

This is complete nonsense, and nor do I agree its the perfect bridge movie. Prometheus created a mythos around the Engineers race and a unique and powerful relationship between David and Elizabeth. In the crossing we see Davids relationship with Elizabeth harden and a clear statement that David found out the truth of the Engineers. Neither of these issues are addressed and Elizabeth is reduced to a confusing plot point which only by reading ADF 's novelisation and listening to Ridleys remarks gets close to any kind of coherency and the Engineers civilisation is mere texture in both book or film. We are on their home planet amongst the ruins of their civilisation and we wait for the next film to re quant ourselves with them and learn something meaningful ? 

Most importantly there is huge story telling potential in both threads in terms of horror and philosophical explanation that has been lost huge potential has been squandered in favour of a routine re run in the first and third act.  

Ridley has very kindly explained off screen how the Engineers functioned but Elizabeth went for answers on screen and some sort of sense of what they were should have been included in the film.

If this film is such a good bridge movie how come ADF is writing a Bridge book which fits between Prometheus and Covenant. That means there is an untold story missing !     

Ridley has tried to reposition the story to suit a straight prequel which gives audiences their Xeno fix and can lead to a situational explanation of who what and how the Juggernaut ended on LV 426 and place the burden of depth on the journey of an A I.

I expected what the story telling momentum of Prometheus and The Crossing implied and we did not receive it. I think that is entirely reasonable set up with answers. I also think the success of the novelisation in communicating much more effectively the pivotal decisions and reasoning in the film suggest the film was low on communication values. What did Elizabeths signal mean, when was it created was it even a beacon signal at least in ADF's novel there is a hint she was trying to escape and with the bomb doors open in the wreck we could assume this was immediately after the attack but if thats the case it effects D & E"s relationship this is sloppy and lazy writing.

You are welcome to think what ever you like about the film but sweeping generalisations about those people who found it wanting in order to rationalise your view point deserves being countered. I doubt you have any better understanding of the film than many of us who found it wanting, which suggests to me you are easily pleased.  

splatterpunk

MemberFacehuggerMay-28-2017 12:23 PM

Prometheus screwed up the alien prequels. Many people jumped ship after Prometheus. Most of the negative feedback is from Prometheus fan boys. 

Ati

MemberPraetorianMay-28-2017 3:49 PM

Michelle - Thank you for your comment.

I agree with you here:

'Most importantly there is huge story telling potential in both threads in terms of horror and philosophical explanation...'

But I don't agree with you here:

'...a unique and powerful relationship between David and Elizabeth. In the crossing we see Davids relationship with Elizabeth harden and a clear statement that David found out the truth of the Engineers. Neither of these issues are addressed and Elizabeth is reduced to a confusing plot point...'

Unique? Yes. Powerful? Yes, but it is not about love. To be more precise, I don't think that the prologue in question 'The Crossing' should be viewed as a source of facts. I think you regard it as a reliable source of info concerning the events after Prometheus. I don't. I don't believe what David says in it. It is narrated by David, not David AND SHAW. And I didn't believe David right after the release of the prologue either. I started a topic about this issue then (26 April), it is here:

I Don't Believe David - The Phantom Crossing

http://www.alien-covenant.com/topic/44309

Of course, this is only my opinion and my mirror.

Add A Reply

Join the discussion! Sign in using your Scified Account to add your say!

New to the site? You can create your own profile in seconds!

* Signing in also removes ads *

Alien Movie Universe Forums
Alien: Earth Series
Alien: Earth SeriesDiscuss the Alien FX TV series here!
Alien: Covenant
Alien: CovenantDiscuss the Prometheus Sequel, Alien: Covenant
Alien
AlienDiscuss all things Alien here
Prometheus
PrometheusEverything About Prometheus
Alien: Romulus
Alien: RomulusDiscuss the new Fede Alvarez Alien movie here
Alien Movies
Alien MoviesDiscuss the Classic Alien Films
Prometheus Fan Art
Prometheus Fan ArtArtwork & Fiction From the Fans
Alien Games
Alien GamesDiscuss Alien games here
Alien 5 Movie
Alien 5 MovieDiscuss Neill Blomkamps’s vision for Alien 5 here
New Forum Topics
Hot Forum Topics
Highest Forum Ranks Unlocked
Thoughts_Dreams
Thoughts_Dreams » Neomorph
88% To Next Rank
Jonesy
Jonesy » Chestburster
51% To Next Rank
MuzzleNZ
MuzzleNZ » Facehugger
33% To Next Rank
NCC 1701
NCC 1701 » Ovomorph
51% To Next Rank
Dr.Swojd
Dr.Swojd » Ovomorph
39% To Next Rank
Unofficial Alien Animated Series
Alien: Analects - the unofficial Alien animated series
Watch Alien: Analects - The unofficial Alien animated series we created! Visit the official page!
Latest Media
Community Stats
This Alien Movie Universe community is part of the Scified network. Scified hosts a network of online fan-site communities containing 406,133 posts by 48,379 members (5 are online now). The Alien: Earth Series Forum is the most recently active forum. The latest Forum topic added was: Check out this Alien: Earth poster by Matthew Ceo
VIPWhat are VIP?AdminModeratorSpecial TitleMember

This website provides the latest information, news, rumors and scoops on the Alien: Romulus movie and Alien TV series for FX! Get the latest news on the Alien prequels, sequels, spin-offs and more. Alien movie, game and TV series news is provided and maintained by fans of the Alien film franchise. This site is not affiliated with 20th Century Studios, FX, Hulu, Disney or any of their respective owners.

© 2025 Scified.com
New Member? Join Up!
Create A Profile

Remove Ads, Contribute Content, Win Prizes!

Already A Member? Sign in


Log in to view your personalized notifications across Scified!

Fandom Communities
AlienFansite
GodzillaFansite
PredatorFansite
Main Menu
Community
Sci-Fi Movies
Help & Info