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David & Walter **Spoilers**

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Acorn

MemberOvomorphMay-14-2017 9:48 PM

I see a lot of people referring to David making himself look like Walter to fool the Covenant crew and gain access to their ship.

I was under the impression that David had taken over Walters body rather then making himself look like him by cutting his own hand off.

Yes he could have recreated the cuts on his face to look like Walter but he would have still had the hole under his chin when Daniels had stabbed him with the nail. This was missing hence somehow David transferred himself to Walter, either freely or by force.

What do others think?

 

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joylitt

MemberNeomorphMay-14-2017 10:24 PM

Acorn I heard there are several shots of David's arm clearly showing that it has been severed in a way that leaves much more of it left. That would contradict your theory. Unless of course it is a gaffe.

Acorn

MemberOvomorphMay-14-2017 10:41 PM

Then why was he missing the hole under his chin where Daniels stabbed him with the nail she was wearing around her neck?

joylitt

MemberNeomorphMay-14-2017 10:48 PM

My guess is one of the two is a gaffe

Tonehound

MemberFacehuggerMay-14-2017 10:50 PM

Which hand did Walter lose initially and then when Dani was thanking him back on board the Covenant …

Hmmm …

Ian Oz

MemberOvomorphMay-14-2017 11:49 PM

I think Walter took over David's body as well. Daniels would've noticed the hole while looking up at him in the cryo-chamber. There's no way David could've neatened his hair, cut off his arm, etched the scratches on his fast, fixed the hole under his chin, and switched clothes in that short amount of time.

 

EWATYAMORPH

MemberOvomorphMay-15-2017 12:44 AM

Would this perhaps explain how the ships MUTHUR system did not recognise David and alert the crew?. I presume MUTHUR would be able to tell between the two androids. It maybe thought Walter had boarded?.

Wonder Boy

MemberOvomorphMay-15-2017 2:58 AM

David does tell MUTHUR he is David while on the ship at the end.

Jonesy

MemberFacehuggerMay-15-2017 3:14 AM

I think it's like an Apple design but run in an android system. 

Sparkz

MemberOvomorphMay-15-2017 5:08 AM

I think Daniels should be understand him from his voice.

When Daniel stabbing scene is important a turning point scene.

But Walter is (watch Walter made video) is hole-silicon type body. Like glass. David is liquid white type. When torn his head splash liquid white. Like Bishop.

Also i am not satisfied so much maybe David do not cut his hand. Just covered with something...

Also i had big disappoint about Walter. His look just stoned. Had zero emotion. He can emerge Daniel or other crew about David and his plan.

At the end in dairy speech voice said is Walter. but David speech. I think its is a gaffe.

A question -- Why MU/TH/UR system can let to pass David in embryo room? Why it can not say -- oops you are not in our ship crew, you can not go.

 2nd question -- I was wondering so much, when Neomorph attacked crew in field of wheat, Neo smash up a crew jaw with tail. Who is him? Then attacked Daniels.

Hairyman

MemberOvomorphMay-15-2017 6:29 AM

Walter can obviously self repair substantial damage, although not the loss of a hand.  Surely the crew would know the capabilities of their on-board synthetic as a matter of mission importance;  why did Daniels not wonder why his skin wasn't healing when she had to staple it shut!

It was such an obvious twist, it would have been more of a twist if it had still been Walter.

Walter implies David is broken when he incorrectly attributes the poem to Byron, not Shelley.  Does this mean David is broken rather than having based his decisions on a strange twisted logic?  More HAL with legs rather than SKYNET?

 

PS in regards to the OP I assumed that he had just swapped clothes and damaged his arm to match.  As some have noted there are some scenes when David (as Walter) clearly has a left arm that is way too long, as if he still has his hand, but I put that down to shoddy effects work.

PPS David signs of the log as Walter because David is a psychopathic, lying, robot intent on genocide.  He also lies about how they died.

Batchpool

MemberFacehuggerMay-15-2017 9:15 AM

I’m going for the option that there is now the possibility of two Davids. David could have cloned his programming into Walter, the effect being that David hacked Walter. The kiss could also have been a moment where David gave Walter alien DNA for the embryo casings. I think David had orchestrated a great deal which made him feel like the man who broke the bank at Monte Carlo.

BigDave

MemberDeaconMay-16-2017 5:28 PM

"Also i had big disappoint about Walter. His look just stoned. Had zero emotion."

This was to show us that Walter indeed has no Emotions, something they changed due to the David Models having too much Emotions which proved a Flaw.

Indeed this Scene does have some Plot Hole like Elements, like how come MUTHUR did not detect him....

This however opens up many debates, because these flaws.. like Prometheus ones, allows us to debate them because they are not Spoon Fed Answers...

So we can ponder things like.

*Is MUTHUR in on the Act?

*Does David transplant his Mind into Walters Body

*Does MUTHUR simply not have means to detect the differences between Robots....

But as i have seen the Movie Twice... MUTHUR indeed does refer to David as David..

Maybe David Programs MUTHUR or the Company has a Special Order that should there ships discover anything regarding Prometheus and its Synthetic then the Ships Computer is given the override commands to accept David.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

Warlock 79nd

MemberOvomorphMay-28-2017 6:01 AM

The question, so, is: Is Walters "corrupted/betraying" at the end or is he in fact David ? The first-look loggic is to believe he is in fact David (role playing as Walters). My point is footed on:

1 - It is quite clear that David and Walters didnt know each other, and thus there was no behind the scenes corp. plot going on between those two.

2 - There is no indication whatsoever that there was an exchange of malware beetween the two synthetics during the kiss, the flute strike or during/after the fight or between any of them and MUTHUR. David became a zoologyst not an IT tech. It is just speculation. Out of a hat. Screen writing of us fans. Nothing says that for a fact.

3- Im not sure the intention of the story is to create the question whereas Walters is in fact David at the end. I believe they wanted it to be David. It is the purpose of Daniels last scene, to reveal to the audience the robot is David. How was it done?

3.1 Walters joined Davids plans (free willingly, being hacked...) or David trojan horsed the ship by taking Walters place (mind transfer to his body or hand self-rippin' or any of those)

3.2 - How come MUTHUR did not reconized an older version of the robot - there has to be diferences in hardware, software or even a different IP number (of sorts). It HAS to be Walters body. OR MUTHER knew and kept it in the low. It didnt identify the growin bug inside Lopes body when he firts returned before being rebooted by "T", or the alien embryos inside the robots body. Its scaning abilities are restricted and cannot see inside the crews body ?

3.5 If the ships involved, than why did it alert Daniels of the "unidentified life form" in med bay ? Let it kill the crew and live with the synthetic like in the planet.

3.4 How come "David" has a security pass to the embrio hall in the ship ? Why Walters would use Davids name at the log in ? MUTHUR had a protocol for David in its files, so it was involved.

6 -So, the answer, to me is: MUTHUR is involved, it is David, OR it is just bad moveing. No sense at all. Sorry guys, sorry Mr Scott. You wheter put the info there of leave us rewriting your stories (great viral though - and loved the movie btw)

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