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possible hidden message from ridley?

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ali81

MemberNeomorphFeb-14-2017 12:20 PM

the path ridley is going down is most definitely, as stated by the man himself, religious themed. though there may also be another message hidden in these films. we r in essence the engineers. though physically we differ in ways it seems our nature and evolutionary path is set to match theyr own. we have become the technological wonder on our planet and r reaching out to the stars. what if on theyr own planet, during the course of theyr own technological advance, they wipe out all life on theyr planet? we r in the process of doing just that. how many sepcies have become extinct in the last 100 years due to agriculture, habitat invasion and industry? they r millennia ahead of us so its quite possible they have past the point of wiping all other life on theyr planet out. I definitely go with theory they r wiping us out to save themselves after the realisation that what they did was wrong and that being theyr main motivation, but what if they also want to save us from that horrific realisation that WE r wrong? its one thing saying wel reduce carbon emissions but that cant compare to the feeling we may have when its too late. when all life is gone and we realise we didn't do enough and that we had no right to do what we did. the engineers, or at least some of them, may be motivated by this. maybe theyv seen the error of theyr ways and r to late to save theyr own world but can save earth from us? if we were in theyr position, what would we do with our creation on another world knowing the evolutionary path that creation would take and the consequences for the planet they inhabit? would we realise we had no right to sentence so many species to the same fate?

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ninXeno426

MemberPraetorianFeb-14-2017 1:53 PM

I suppose a good example would be Avatar(it's just okay)where we would potentially plunder and ruin another planet for our own benefits.

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

ali81

MemberNeomorphFeb-14-2017 3:17 PM

good example n then theres the day the earth stood still

ninXeno426

MemberPraetorianFeb-14-2017 3:40 PM

Another fine example 

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

Rick

MemberXenomorphFeb-14-2017 8:48 PM

Ali you sound like Klaatu.  This is Alien/s not "The day the earth stood still" (was meant to be funny not mean) Remember in the Alien Universe we can terraform worlds.  What ever we do to the planet can be reversed.  I think there is too much emphasis on us being the center of the universe, again. Remember we are mere pawn ants in the alien universe.  

Besides, there are so many other ways the earths environment can be hurt besides by us. Volcanic activity (Yosemite Caldera, Venus is a good example), Solar Storms (see Carrington Event), Asteroid(ocean impact anyone?), Comet(see asteroid), Huge Wild Fires (lightning, magma, etc.), Gamma Ray Burst (nearby supernova), that's just to name a few events that can change an environment in short order.  Volcano's can dump m/billions of tons of hydro carbons, carbon dioxide, methane, sulfur, all things non conducive to human life.  If we have 1 mega event from a super caldera, our environment would go from sunny to slim shady over night.  

ali81

MemberNeomorphFeb-15-2017 6:43 AM

rick, yea true it is science fiction but still written by a man who has thoughts and emotions that influence the way he makes films. and although correct that volcanoes etc that u pointed out can devastate a planet, they r natural events created by the planet themselves and so completely differs from the point I made.

BigDave

MemberDeaconFeb-15-2017 4:59 PM

I think there could be the fear of damage a Race who gets so Advanced can cause on the Environment for sure.

If we was still only as advanced as thousands of years ago say in the BC years then our World and Animals on it would not be suffering the way it is now... 

Our Advancement has lead to pollutants and our need for our processed foods and packages has a impact for sure.

I am not so sure the Engineers wanted us destroyed so we dont get to this level however because we would pollute the World

Its more a case of the Engineers saw we was advancing and we was not considering them as Gods and not following the rules.  They would fear that we cant be allowed to carry on any path and know as we are close to them and maybe they have seen the damage and threat a subjugated Race can cause when they rebel against the Order and Rules laid down for them.

As maybe they did this themselves against their own creators.

We have to consider that Paradise seems to be stuck in a Technological Stage that Mankind had thousands of years ago to and show no signs of being Advanced not as far as LV-223 Engineers.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

Something Real

MemberTrilobiteFeb-15-2017 6:01 PM

ALI81 - There more terrible question is this: does the advancement of life to a "perfect" state necessitate the extinction of all other, less sophisticated organisms upon a planet? I have pondered this unhappy hypothesis on more than one occasion - each time growing more displeased with its implications. The one and only thing with which nature is concerned is genetic continuity. That is all. Therefore, it may be nature's design to have only one "apex" life-form emerge upon the world after countless millions of years of evolutionary trial and tribulation. It is not a scenario in which I take comfort. However, nature does not have pity or a sense of fairness. Nature favors the strong and healthy over the weak in nearly every situation. If technology is Mankind's strength, then he is likely destined to remain the apex creature upon Earth - even if it means the steady decline and destruction of the world's other life-forms. Yet, through it all, we must ask a very compelling question: is Mankind's technology "natural"?

Rick

MemberXenomorphFeb-15-2017 10:00 PM

Ali and SR,

This is just my opinion.  I think the only tangible technology and damage humans can do to the planet is nuclear.  Plastics eh not so much it does decay in 400ish years.  Some radiation can go on for 100K+ years.  So I think nuclear technology is the smoking gun, for planetary damage.  Also regarding the apex predator and animal extinction.  I think there has been a million plus species come and gone before man even existed.  We haven't been riding the blue bus for that long (i don't think anyways) say a million years or so on our 4.5 billion year old planet.

Also I think with the way our tech is evolving we're heading more towards a cybernetic existence with our ever more reliance on it.

 

"Resistance is Futile"

Something Real

MemberTrilobiteFeb-16-2017 5:27 AM

RICK - A most compelling hypotheses! I happen to agree; nuclear technology is almost certainly the single-most dangerous power at Mankind's disposal. With luck, he will wield it wisely. As for cybernetics: I hope humanity never ventures down the path of artificial existence. The soul exists as it does because we are alive and a part of our world - not cold machinery. :)

ali81

MemberNeomorphFeb-16-2017 7:10 AM

rick, where I agree nuclear tech is the single most devastating power we wield it doesnt detract from the effects habitat invasion has, nor does the argument wev only been here a wee while and the planet will recover from carbon enitions and pollution. the point is ethically what we have done and r doing is wrong. we grow as a species which is great but we do it with such a selfish attitude that we take next to no regard for the effects on other species. as u pointed out we have only been here a short time and almost all other species have been here just as long if not longer. we have no right to is the point im making. hypothetically if a greater power was watching,  I don't think they could be blamed for wiping out the human race for the greater good. my original theory was based on this prequel series having such a religious tone to it and as all writers/ directors, they look to others for inspiration. we have the ark itself which was to save other species and then u have movies such as the day the earth stood still etc. I was more thinking out loud about why the engineers may have such a desire to wipe the human race out

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