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A More Realistic Take on Ghidorah

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84GOJI4EVR

MemberMothra LarvaeDec-01-2014 8:20 PM

Think about it for a second, where in nature have we seen multi headed creatures? Well, the answer to that question, is siamese twins, or siamese animals. What if ghidorah was,  like godzilla and the mutos, a prehistoric creature. We should know by now that reptiles are capable of having multiple offspring in one egg. What if one particular egg was supposed to have 3 offspring, but like the skeleton above, the offspring combined into one individual creature that bore 3 heads and 2 tails, but still maintained a somewhat proportional upper and lower body. After seeing the hideous creature, the mother abandons it, forcing it to survive on its own, itt develops certain skills and fighting techniques that the others could not learn under the care of a mother. Eventually it grows strong enough to challenge even the mighty Godzilla.

If you agree/disagree, let me know why in the comments. I really wanna hear what y`all think about this.

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Durp004

MemberBaragonDec-01-2014 8:31 PM

I would prefer his to be from space, but I guess making him a abnormality even among the monsters from Godzilla's time wouldn't be too bad. 

NerdyBandGeeks

MemberMothra LarvaeDec-01-2014 10:50 PM

I doubt Ghidorah will be from space. If Godzilla wasn't awaken by a nulear bomb in the new series for "realism" then why would they let Ghidorah be from space? That's my logic, we'll see in 2018 :P

I like this, it's reminiscent of the Heisei origins, and even makes some logical sense. Thanks for sharing!

Godzilla316

MemberAnguirusDec-01-2014 11:53 PM

Why do people say space isnt realistic?

Do you know what the chances of life out there is given its vastness?

He could just be known as a space creature who comes from space who destroys on its own free will; like Showa.

Remember that chap, I forget his name, he climbed Everest without any oxygen, came down nearly dead. They asked him, they said, "Why did you go up there to die?" He said, "I didn't, I went up there to live."

Durp004

MemberBaragonDec-02-2014 12:33 AM

A 3 headed space monster is just as "realistic" as an ancient giant nuclear absorbing monster that's near indestructible.

TheGMan123

MemberTitanosaurusDec-02-2014 4:49 AM

I do have my own theory on this, guys! It combines a bit of the old King Ghidorah (mainly his Showa incarnation because many agree that's the best), and a bit of new grounded aspects from the 2014 Godzilla film.

This is the link to my full blog detailing how I think is the best way to approach King Ghidorah.

Super Godzilla

MemberMothra LarvaeDec-02-2014 12:23 PM

Ghidorah should be from space.  I don't know how Legendary could make him fit into the plot if he was from Earth, though either story would be interesting, I can't wait.

 

Something Real

MemberGodzillaDec-02-2014 12:39 PM

84GOJI4EVR - That's actually a very clever and neat idea! I personally would prefer Ghidorah to have an extraterrestrial origin; however, if that isn't the case, your notion has a great deal of potential! Thank you for sharing this with us! :)

Something Real

MemberGodzillaDec-02-2014 12:49 PM

EVERYONE - Space is a fine place within which Ghidorah can arise! The Drake Equation alone states that the chances of intelligent extraterrestrial life existing are extremely high! Therefore, it's safe to assume that non-sapient organisms are likely very abundant in space! Even as we speak, our greatest space pioneers are preparing missions to begin mining asteroids and comets. Who knows? Perhaps Ghidorah will be found dormant within the heart of an asteroid that happens to be the final remnants of a planet that died billions of years ago. It's very exciting to ponder! :)

Huge-Ben

MemberBaragonDec-02-2014 1:50 PM

Like i keep saying, he has to come from space. Ghidorah has always had that reputation of break everything and kill everyone except GMK. However, it was also i who said that he should have arrived here during the dinosaur ages through asteriods or metorites and was responsible for killing all dinosaurs, except godzilla. In my personal opinion i think this would fit great for legendary's universe, and besides that, it would make all fans happier to know that he is coming from space.

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High FLYERS Tag Team

MemberMothra LarvaeDec-02-2014 2:00 PM

So you guys are saying that space is just where he has to come from! I just don't buy it. Why would they ruin this series just for a origin? Earth is the best rought because it a lot more believely for the general audience but not for you guys because your "best" origin will be ruin. There is nowhere exact proof of aliens and that this could come from earth. 

I think being part of the snake family is the best due to the fact their are muit headed snakes!!

There are strong men and weak men. The strong ones are here to keep the weak ones up when ever they fail.

Huge-Ben

MemberBaragonDec-02-2014 2:02 PM

Yeah but regardless of realism or not, godzilla will never be realistic. That is a fact. I don't mind an earth origin, i got nothing against it as long as it makes sense to everyone.

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High FLYERS Tag Team

MemberMothra LarvaeDec-02-2014 2:04 PM

I'm just saying Gareth basically said this is what he was doing

There are strong men and weak men. The strong ones are here to keep the weak ones up when ever they fail.

TheGMan123

MemberTitanosaurusDec-02-2014 2:07 PM

High Flyers, you seem to forget that Gareth has never done the realistic approach with the creatures themselves, just that they have grounded aspects that will suspend disbelief. It's the world around them that's supposed to be realistic.

Tell me......... what kind of origin would supposedly make King Ghidorah realistic in any sense? Mind you, the core characteristics need to remain the same: three-heads, flying, bigger than Godzilla, two tails, and spews lightning-like energy.

What kind of origin could ever possibly be any more realistic for that?

Huge-Ben

MemberBaragonDec-02-2014 2:07 PM

The thing we also have to look at is this, so many different people out here believe in several different things, like aliens, dragons, etc.

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Durp004

MemberBaragonDec-02-2014 2:08 PM

I'm very much against an earth origin. It's boring that every single monster has the same origin Godzilla and the MUTOs did, chances are Rodan and Mothra will share similar origins. That just leaves Ghidorah.

If we want to talk about how realistic it is if it did or did not come from space how about we address the fact that will be 5 different giant monster that were all sleeping without anyone noticing anything. That's not all that realistic either.

Huge-Ben

MemberBaragonDec-02-2014 2:12 PM

^That is an excellent point there durp. Like i said in my last post, we all could believe in very different things. Like i believe in God, some may or may not, there are people out here who believe in aliens and those who don't.

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High FLYERS Tag Team

MemberMothra LarvaeDec-02-2014 2:21 PM

I believe in God to but that doesn't mean there are aliens

There are strong men and weak men. The strong ones are here to keep the weak ones up when ever they fail.

Huge-Ben

MemberBaragonDec-02-2014 2:23 PM

^I know what you mean there HFTT. But that is my point, everyone out here in this world has different beliefs in so many things.

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Something Real

MemberGodzillaDec-02-2014 9:48 PM

HIGH FLYERS TAG TEAM - Perhaps we could consider a hybrid theory for Ghidorah's origin - one that maintains his extraterrestrial background but has him "originate" on Earth. I once posted a theory positing that Ghidorah could be brought to Earth via a severe mishap with the Large Hadron Collider - perhaps a terrible accident that results in a momentary "rip" between dimensions of space-time that allow the monster to step through to our world! That could be very compelling and terrifying all at once! :)

G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaDec-02-2014 10:17 PM

Saying an alien origin would "ruin" anything is nonsense. Only if it were done poorly. Gareth has stated he's bent on putting a "realistic" slant on Godzilla, but the doesn't mean he can't take the space origin of King Ghidorah as "realistic" as possible either. "Realism" does not mean a stunt on sci-fi variables. And it certainly doesn't mean extraterrestrial life is out of the equation.

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

KManX89

MemberMothra LarvaeDec-03-2014 11:47 AM

To be fair, there is no way to make King Ghidorah remotely realistic, MechaGodzilla and Destoroyah would both actually be more believable than any take you could possibly give for King Ghidorah's origin, space or otherwise. 

Hell, if anything, a three-headed space hydra that can shoot lightning from his mouths is actually more likely to be found in space than here on earth. 

G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaDec-03-2014 4:40 PM

I don't know... I feel like the the Gareth-verse would have a hard time justifying MechaGodzilla.

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

KManX89

MemberMothra LarvaeDec-04-2014 5:15 AM

Short of alien forces and maybe SpaceGodzilla, nothing would be too far out there for this franchise with Ghidorah being in it. A three-headed golden dragon that can shoot lightning from his mouths, space or otherwise, is actually less believable than a robot Godzilla. Hell, they pretty much laid the groundwork for a MechaGodzilla appearing with the Godzilla skeleton found in the cave, he would easily be more realistic than Ghidorah if they built him from that (similar to Kiryu), which isn't saying much, but still.

G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaDec-04-2014 8:03 AM

Not sure if I agree with that. But I'm also not sure how I feel about them rehashing the concept for Kiryu. Seems like, "been there, don that" regardless of how well the Kiryu concept was originally realized.

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

The King of the Monsters

MemberMothra LarvaeDec-04-2014 10:43 AM

Mechagodzilla is almost an inevitability for the third film. If Toho chose to sell the rights to Mothra, Rodan, and King Ghidorah to Legendary, Mechagodzilla is no doubt their next choice. The marquee value of Mechagodzilla is pretty high, so Legendary acquiring the rights to him would be a good business decision. The problem is, how does Legendary justify the construction of a 300-foot advanced robot built in the image of Godzilla in this grounded universe? Giant creatures evolving by themselves without human involvement is one thing, but giant man-made robots are another. I think Legendary might establish the third film as being an almost post-apocalyptic setting following the events of the second film and justify mankind putting together all of their resources to construct Mechagodzilla to protect themselves from future attacks. As for using Kiryu's origin, building Mechagodzilla around the skeleton of another Godzilla is the only way I see them justifying a robot built in Godzilla's image.

"When man falls into conflict with nature, monsters are born." - Professor Hayashida, The Return of Godzilla

Durp004

MemberBaragonDec-04-2014 11:25 AM

Just because MechaG is the last of the Toho big 5 I don't think that puts him quite as high as people think for him to be in the 3rrd movie. Sure he's one of the more likely candidates but I don't see him being head and shoulders above a few other monsters.

KManX89

MemberMothra LarvaeDec-04-2014 11:41 AM

@ KING OF THE MONSTERS: with Ghidorah showing up, anything short of alien forces, UFOs, and maybe SpaceGodzilla, etc is possible, if they can justify a giant, three-headed golden space dragon that can shoot lightning from his mouths appearing, they can justify a mech created in Godzilla's image (with reasonable modifications, of course), especially with the Gozilla cavern bones, and their rationale for building him is quite obvious: the humans would obviously be in fear of more monsters eventually emerging after the MUTO invasion, hence they would want something to combat them with.

And I guarantee you, if they went with MechaGodzilla for Godzilla 3, he would be built using the Godzilla skeleton from the cave.

TheGMan123

MemberTitanosaurusDec-04-2014 11:52 AM

But such an endeavour would take a very long time with a lot of resources spent for development. The first Jaeger in the PR universe took over a year to develop, and even late into the Kaiju War, it was extremely hard to create more. We have to consider what's reasonable on the Human side of things.

A Mecha-Godzilla? Not very likely unless given at least more than 3 years straight to make. As well, why make a Mecha-Godzilla? A machine in the image of such an imposing monster isn't exactly something Humans would come to the conclusion of in the Legendary-verse, I wouldn't think. Anti-monster weapons of an exotic nature? Sure, evenutally.

But a completely free-standing cybernetic impersonation of the most powerful of the ones to crawl out of the woodwork? We get into murky territory. Sure, it's no less ridiculous than King Ghidorah, but it's almost certain he'll have no no Human influences on him. But the Humans in the Legendary-verse are supposed to be no different than the regular ones.

I doubt such ideas would truly prop up at any reasonable interval for the Human minds of this universe.

The King of the Monsters

MemberMothra LarvaeDec-04-2014 12:07 PM

I think Mechagodzilla can be pulled off in the third film as long as he is given explanation and a lot of backstory. Monsters like King Ghidorah would benefit from an ambiguous origin because they are the result of unobserved phenomena beyond human control. I'm sure that if Mechagodzilla is constructed, it will be explained that he took several years to be constructed. As for why a robot would be built in the image of Godzilla, perhaps Mechagodzilla's designers would realize that Godzilla has the perfect form for something of his size to fight other giant monsters effectively. And since there is a Godzilla skeleton readily available, that would explain how the humans would get the framework for the machine and why of all the kaiju they chose to make a robot version of Godzilla. If they can pull of King Ghidorah, then they can pull off Mechagodzilla. It will however require a lot of explanation and tweaking.

"When man falls into conflict with nature, monsters are born." - Professor Hayashida, The Return of Godzilla

KManX89

MemberMothra LarvaeDec-07-2014 7:23 AM

Why make a MechaGodzilla? Probably because there's a Godzilla skeleton already available and building a machine around it would thus, inevitably make it resemble Godzilla. Plus, they could say in the second movie they've been building him since the MUTO invasion in the second movie, thus giving them 4 years to make. They could say they finished construction at the end of the second movie, thus have a special ending with them panning inside the metal casing and glaring yellow eyes before the end credits, I think that would be pretty cool.

And again, don't talk about any monster being unreasonable for this franchise when they're giving us a giant three-headed golden space dragon that can shoot lightning from his mouths, that's as unrealistic as it gets right there. Again, MechaGodzilla and Destoroyah are more realistic than he is, and that's really saying a lot, too, when you think about it.

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