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MemberOvomorphSep-02-2012 2:29 AMI always try to make threads short, so I will try to do the same with this one as well. Some of you might already have read this on the net somewhere, but there was a site/YouTube clip (I can't seem to find it anymore) that showed/explained what happened after Prometheus and how the eggs ended up in the derelict (like we see in the first Alien film). It states that the urns we see in Prometheus evolve and turn into eggs. Since the black liquid has certain powerful transforming properties, the hard material of the urns is transformed into something more organic because the Xeno DNA inside, thus resulting in eggs and the facehuggers inside. I found this interesting because it reminded me of the rough draft of the first Alien screenplay (as well as the novelization/book) in which the eggs are refered to as urns, vases or containers. The Alien Queen may have come later as an evolutionary process. And who knows what will happen with the Deacon Alien in a sequel. I guess we'll see.
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Sky
MemberOvomorphSep-02-2012 3:01 AMLiquid inside the urn has biological reaction towards organism, not metal. We can clearly see that it is metal. As much as we want urn to convert into egg, that's not true. If urns convert into egg, there is no need for female, only liquid if enough.
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Xenomorph 54
MemberOvomorphSep-02-2012 5:45 AMThe derelict where the eggs were found in LV-426 seemed very old, way older than the events of prometheus.
Well, I think that the xenomorphs existed before prometheus and the deacon isn't a proto-xeno. I hope so. If that strange, alien creature seen in Alien actually descended from an acident caused by humans...
Have you heard of phoenix asteroids?
They glow in every color of the rainbow...they travel endlessly through space...
BigDave
MemberDeaconSep-02-2012 7:54 AMWell Ridley hinted that the Derelict on LV 426 was carrying a Cargo of Eggs not Urns and that a Face Hugger had gotten lose and to the Pilot who then had to land the Derelict on the nearest baron place which happened to be LV 426.
Looking at a lot of what Ridley said and clues in Alien and Prometheus i dont think that the Urns turn into Eggs.
We dont get any explanation as to how or when the eggs are created but enough hints are their to say they predate the 2000 years ago when the Engineers on LV 223 suffered some kind of outbreak.
My hunch is the Urns are just a attempt by the Engineers to re weaponize the Xeno Organism using a similar process that the Sacrificial Engineer had done to break down his DNA to create/evolve life on Earth.
I think by Prometheus 3 we would get the answers as far as connection with the Xeno/Egg and the Urns in Prometheus and i think my theory would be quite close as opposed to say the Deacon laying Eggs.
But i guess we wont know until after a few more movies unless Ridley spills the beans earlier.
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genjitsu17
MemberOvomorphSep-02-2012 10:52 AMWhat BigDave said. :)
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Xenomorph 54
MemberOvomorphSep-02-2012 3:33 PM@BigDave Yeah, that's what I think too.
Have you heard of phoenix asteroids?
They glow in every color of the rainbow...they travel endlessly through space...
Necronom 4
MemberNeomorphSep-02-2012 4:23 PMWe don't know where the eggs came from yet. Ridley didn't explain it in prometheus, which i really thought he would have done. We don't yet have a clear picture of what and how! But, going off the deleted scene in Alien, where Brett and Dallas were being turned into eggs, i would say that the SJs cargo of eggs are humanoids, from another planet, that have been turned into the eggs we see in the derelict. I think, the SJ was on his way back from another planet, populated by humanoids, that the Engineers had created and that SJ had been despatched to that planet to round up the eggs. On his way back to LV 223 he becomes a victim of a face hugger.
The poster was good though!
Necronom 4
MemberNeomorphSep-02-2012 4:36 PMMaybe, what they are trying to do with the black stuff, is resurrect the demon lord (lucifer) and the more eggs there are, the more chance there is of resurrecting it (lucifer)? Eggs symbolize resurrection in religion and Ridley as stated that the engineers are "dark angels". They also symbolize the resurrection of Jeebus Christ.
The poster was good though!
JC Jones Cat
MemberOvomorphSep-02-2012 7:00 PMAll great comments here!!
@Xenomorph54: I as well think (and hope) that the Xenos existed before Prometheus. Would be great to see where the Xenos came from and how they came to be, if ever the film makers decide to explore that.
@necronom 4: Interesting comment! Staying in the religious vane, I read somewhere that the Mother Mary (mother to Jeebus) would have been "infected" with the black liquid (a bit like Shaw in the Prometheus movie), thus creating Jeebus, the prodigal son of the Engineers. I thought that comment was pushing it a bit, but I still found it interesting.
@BigDave: I totally agree :) especially with the weapon aspect of the black liquid. But I'm still trying to figure out what the Engineers had in mind for the black liquid when it came to "destroying" the humans on Earth: would the liquid simply just kill the humans right away, would it actually turn the humans into Xenos, would it turn the humans into Engineer-like creatures, or something else happen??
Necronom 4
MemberNeomorphSep-02-2012 7:16 PMNot destroy exactly. Transform more like? The black stuff is despatched by the engineers, onto a certain planet populated by humanoids, like us. The mutations that the black stuff cause, produces "Xenomorph" lol like creatures, that turn the rest of the population into eggs. The eggs are then collected by the SJs/engineers. God knows what happens then? It's all about the dark lord?
The poster was good though!
JC Jones Cat
MemberOvomorphSep-03-2012 4:40 PMYes! Theories and discussions on this topic can take many turns. Looking forward to the sequels...so many possibilities!
Whirlwind
MemberOvomorphNov-18-2012 5:35 PMThe metal "eggs" are incubators, fashioned to keep the experiment alive (and under control) as the species is developed into a more efficient weapon. The black ooze is their version of a wonderful stem-cell goop. It can do all kinds of neat things to nudge along the process of evolution within an organism. It can break down DNA and rebuild it in one swipe, making improvements along the way. When the Queen is born, she gets to work on her hive, feasting on the genetically weak yolks, tossing out the fake eggs and replacing them with her own organic farm-fresh eggs. But I wonder why, in Alien, they find a gigantic, dead alien life-form grown out of the chair with a hole in its chest. Where did that one come from?
DenzelTH
MemberOvomorphDec-02-2012 6:34 AMIn Alien i thought the guys were stuck to the wall for more facehuggers to come along, because the xeno doesnt realise he's on a ship. And the SJ got facehugged tampering with his cargo.
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MemberOvomorphDec-09-2012 11:49 PM"..If that strange, alien creature seen in Alien actually descended from an acident caused by humans..."
@Xenomorph 54 THis is great idea. What we call xenos were 'created' by human accident.
All events afterwards , possibly including the Alien Juggernuat discovery ,were a result of our crew blundering around the moon.
I hope this idea does not get buried or forgotten.
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HyperNova
MemberOvomorphDec-22-2012 3:19 PMThey said there were other ships, perhaps the xeno eggs are stored in another part of the complex and fo one reason or another the 'site' was shut down, decomissioned or at worst, abandoned. I would like to think that evidence will be found in one of the other 'sites' that a Juggernaught lifted off 2000+ years ago with the xeno eggs/parasites aboard and it is then that he/she they are attacked and are somehow 'forced' down on LV-426.
They don't have to dwell on this that much if they don't want too if they want this franchise to blosom on its own merits but to have a rounding-off of this kunundrum would be a revelation such as Darth Vader doing an about-face on Luke when decalring to him that he was and has always indeed been HIS FATHER!
It would be a neat little touch to to do some sort of subtle yet blatantly obvious reveal.
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