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Do you want the Engineer to speak?

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sukkal

MemberOvomorphMay-15-2012 7:25 PM
It strikes me that if the Engineer were to speak in the film that it might dramatically change our (humans’) relationship to him. David is clearly reading at several points in the film. Presumably he’s reading the orthography of a spoken language. Do [u]you personally[/u] want the Engineer to speak or not speak and why?
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John D.

MemberOvomorphMay-15-2012 10:46 PM
I'd love to hear them bust out with some Cockney. "Hmm hmm hmm-hmm hmm, hm - 'ang on, wot's this?" (picks up Shaw) "Blimey! Oi...Bert! Tom! Come 'ave a look at this 'ere..."

Merc7

MemberOvomorphMay-15-2012 7:50 PM
They better shut up, and if they try to talk... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuLugxEjUlQ

C0nst2nt1n3

MemberOvomorphMay-15-2012 7:52 PM
Gosh I hope David doesn't turn into C3P0 and be fluent in alien languages. And that Weyland language tool better not be a Star Trek inspired Universal Tranlator. That's just taking the easy way out of getting around alien communication problems. But at least its not like the Stargate SG1 series where all aliens in the universe are fluent in English. In regards to Engineers speaking, I prefer them not to speak but if they do then it should sound very alien and menacing. Watching an engineer speak English would look weird IMO.

Mr.J

MemberOvomorphMay-15-2012 7:29 PM
He might have taken the "Rosetta" stone series and speak anything....but I am hoping he just grunts and torments the crew...seriously, he might use mind tricks as most aliens have that ability...

shambs

MemberOvomorphMay-15-2012 7:30 PM
Hmmm Difficult question, but I personally prefer some kind of diferent communication (not telepathic) I do not know perhaps through sounds and images...but it is hard to imagine the Engineer speaking. Also in what language? Sumerian ¿?

C0nst2nt1n3

MemberOvomorphMay-15-2012 8:07 PM
They will probably be telepathic. This is probably the simplest way to get around communication problems in this movie.

Outlander

MemberOvomorphMay-15-2012 7:36 PM
Not if he's going to say, "klaatu nikto barada" or something. I suppose he could. I assume David has the Broca Dialectical Implant Weyland Industries introduces revolutionary, game-changing language tool. It is the first ever to require no actual learning on the consumer’s behalf. Maybe Shaw has it also.

sukkal

MemberOvomorphMay-15-2012 7:44 PM
David is supposed to have the ability to understand "any language" based on some Weyland technology. The crew is also paying a lot of attention to Sumerian, at least cuneiform. Notice the Language Frequency analysis in the data cube. (Viewer's lower left. Click image to enlarge.) [url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/uploads/prometheusmovie_11512_1.jpg][img]http://www.prometheus-movie.com/uploads/prometheusmovie_11512_1.jpg[/img][/url] There is also a pedigreed linguist appearing in the film as a character, a "teacher."

BigDave

MemberDeaconMay-15-2012 7:59 PM
Dont know where Ridley will go with this one.... Would the Engineer understand us? I am sure David somehow maybe comunicates with them.... but maybe only as far as interface with their computer... i am not sure no Engineer comes up to him to be best buddies like the suposes screeing review claims... i prefer the "oh what you doing here playing with all me S%£$" "leave it alone or ill rip ya head off" Only would they understand him lol... I mean we did here the Space Jockey speak in the Warning in the deleted Alien scene.... [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_VnoLyrfdY]Jockey Transmision[/url]

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Rawr

MemberOvomorphMay-15-2012 7:59 PM
If they are smart enough to create life, well i think they could speak english if they wanted to but maybe just a really fucking scary and alien like voice if they do say anything.

FREEZE!

Co-AdminMemberOvomorphMay-15-2012 8:09 PM
The answer would be hell no, unless they sound dark and menacing
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sukkal

MemberOvomorphMay-15-2012 8:32 PM
@W2rh0und, Telepathy would seem like a cop out to me, they would have to come up with some cheesy way for us in the audience to "hear" that too.

sukkal

MemberOvomorphMay-15-2012 8:30 PM
He looks very "Frankenstein’s Monster" to me. That monster does not speak, but not being [u]able[/u] to speak is not consistent with the writing all over the temple and cryo-cophagi.

BigDave

MemberDeaconMay-15-2012 8:36 PM
I thought it would be Telepathy.... which may not work with David and thus make the Engineer think..... "hang on what do we have here" then find out we are not creating lifeforms and that may then not sit well with the Engineer.... Well seems the one person on Twitter who saw the movie claims thats what happens and thus the Engineer takes a interest in David and Shows him all the stuff and Holograms..... We shall see.

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sukkal

MemberOvomorphMay-15-2012 8:39 PM
@BigDave, I think the only way that they would understand English is if they had been doing a lot of monitoring of Earth in the last 500 years. Before that, English as we know it didn't really exist. In this fiction that David can "Google Translate" any language, I feel it is much more likely that he would be able to talk to them, than they would be able to understand and/or speak English.

sukkal

MemberOvomorphMay-15-2012 8:42 PM
I've been avoiding what the "Twitter woman" has said like the plague. ;•)

Xenotron

MemberOvomorphMay-15-2012 9:01 PM
As long as they don't say things like "eBay" and "my bad". If they HAD to speak, I'd feel fine if they sounded like Gravemind. If that's the case, they could explain it away by saying that the Engineers taught us language or that they can read our minds and learn English that way.

C0nst2nt1n3

MemberOvomorphMay-15-2012 9:06 PM
If anything they would probably speak Chinese as China has the largest population so in a way it would make sense to speak the language of the country with the largest population. Then there is India. But in regards to international languages you also have French and Portugese.

Rawr

MemberOvomorphMay-15-2012 9:15 PM
Well there's 3 possibilities imo 1: They don't speak to David/the crew at all 2: They can telepathically communicate with us, but that doesn't work to well for us in the audience 3: They know English and just speak really strangely in a very weird sort of accent. Or David can translate what they say with some tech maybe

Spartacus

MemberOvomorphMay-15-2012 9:21 PM
only if it we cannot understand what they are saying properly and it matches what we heard in the garbbled tape recorded transmission the Nostromo picked up and Lambert played for all of us in The Alien Quadrilogy's "Alien"

Prenihility

MemberOvomorphMay-15-2012 9:35 PM
YES! IF, and only if, they sound as badass as they are. It would have to be done right. I imagine their speech should sound as if they're talking while inhaling, not exhaling, as we would. Y'know what i mean? ... Hard to explain.

Galzu

MemberOvomorphMay-15-2012 9:58 PM
Personally, i think David will be the key. He will be the Angel, the messenger, the interpreter, .....the Prophet, and will turn out to be more "human" than most of the crew. I think the SJ will be able to talk to david "telepathically" on a level the Humans can't......yet. Obviously The SJ 's method of communication is visual. Architectually, Using art (Murals), Holograms, Telepathic "visions", even their own creations, us. When the SJ directly communicates to the humans, its too much, their fears,prejudices,beliefs, and doubts cloud the message and get in the way of it. Most human minds cant take that much info all at once. They break down, go insane trying to make sense of it, or understand it on some subconscious level but cant realize the truth. But David, like Neo, can decode the whole matrix of information all at "Once" and "on the fly". This means he would be able to do what is best for everyone all at Once. Something we all in this world should be striving to do.

artyoh

MemberOvomorphMay-15-2012 10:01 PM
Please, no "talky" Engineers. Actions speak louder than words.

DAVIS

MemberOvomorphMay-15-2012 10:31 PM
I love to see the engineer speaking in Iranian language or better still call me Allah.

Maxwell

MemberOvomorphMay-15-2012 10:35 PM
They will speak Dothraki with a hint of Finnish

Forever War

MemberOvomorphMay-15-2012 11:22 PM
I want the Engineer to say only one word...

Forever War

MemberOvomorphMay-15-2012 11:32 PM
^_~

sukkal

MemberOvomorphMay-15-2012 11:26 PM
Anha efichisak haz yeroon, zhey Maxwell!

sukkal

MemberOvomorphMay-15-2012 11:27 PM
@Forever, Let me guess... “XENO!”

Membrane

MemberFacehuggerMay-16-2012 8:25 AM
If they sound like the transmission in the deleted 'Alien' scene, then okay - that's dark, menacing and very "alien". Otherwise, I think it would be better for them to not communicate at all. They would just kill without reason or warning... kind of like the xeno does.
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