Star Wars Episode 10: Three new films announced with Daisy Ridley returning as Rey!

Yeah like the last three Star Wars movies weren't annoying with a low reception

Not interested in Rey, she came off as a miss perfect in the sequel trilogy. There was nothing that she had to fight for to improve her skills. Keeping episode 7-9 in mind, I’ll pass on this one, and it's not because of what some call woke stuff, feminism, or anything like that.

Thoughts_Dreams

For once we are in agreement, though the miss perfect part is a result of wokeness.

Xenotaris:

It seems to me to be different opinions about what wokeness is, and how much there shall be of something for it to be woke. That term might seem to mean different things, depending on your political point of view. You will always offend someone if you put in something with political implications. Sometimes I shrug and think… well you can't please everyone.

As far as Daisy Ridley is concerned she might do alright in other movies, I just don't care about Rey. Not sure if it's the same there like with the alien-prequels, that there were scenes that were cut that should have been left in, or if the writing was bad in general.

Look I have nothing against Daisy Ridley, its not her fault that JJ Abrams and Disney made her character a Mary Sue (a miss perfect).

Like I said having a female main character doesn't make it woke.

Sarah Conner and Ellen Ripley are prime examples of non-woke female protagonists. Who they are as characters are not defined by their gender. If you rewrite them as male characters they would be the same character.

Rey is a woke female protagonist due to given special narrative privileges that her predecessors (Luke and Anakin) didn't have.

Rey had the novel ability of copy and pasting force training from Kylo Ren's mind. Reason I believe this was, she didn't have any force powers until Kylo Ren used his mind probe force ability.

The scene were she "fixed" the Millennium Falcon felt like it came straight out of an old Star Trek fanfiction were the term Mary Sue originated from.

I haven't seen the rest of the woke Star Wars past Force Awakens but I heard they had a heavy handed approached to promote woke feminism like having some powerful female characters telling the males sit back and let the women due the job properly. That is literally a reverse Get in the Kitchen mentality. If these characters were males, you would call it chauvinism.

Also forced representation is wokeness. STAR WARS isn't about pushing present day Earth's social norms, that was supposed to be STAR TREK's job (and Star Trek did it better). STAR WARS is supposed to be about the battle between GOOD vs EVIL.

Xenotaris:


“Like I said having a female main character doesn't make it woke.”

Ya, it depends on how the character is written. I easily prefer Sarah Connor and Ripley over Rey, so we are in agreement there. They way that she was able to do things by a click of her fingers was just bizarre. Unfortunately the sequels to Star Wars 7 were meh, and it was not because of what someone might call wokeism, at least it wasn't my problem. My problem was that the new characters weren't that interesting. If you are a conservative or something close to that then I understand why you might dislike Star Wars 7-9, since Star Wars always have had that liberal political leaning (although the originals dealt with it in a better way).

I googled wokeism and the best definition that I found was (in a negative way) those that promote liberal agendas. This seems to be a complaint from those that want to keep as much as possible as it was before (to promote the own power-agendas/egos). One might think that wokeness is to do X another one might think that it is to do B. My attitude to wokeness is that if they want to complain then I don't need to agree. Some might complain about a movie being woke, means progressive but then they don't need to watch it. They have Fox news and whatever.

One person might be able to take a certain amount of ideas before they don't like a movie and another one might be able to deal with another amount. This means that someone think that one movie might be woke while another one in the same political spectrum might think that it requires another amount before something is woke.

About the feminist thing, some of the feminism might make sense if you think about it. What kind of feminism that you agree with is up to you (there are different versions, look it up if you want). Forced representation, so what is needed for it to be forced? To some it means that you can't do this and you can't do that because then it's woke and bad. Sometimes you got to stand for what you think is right, you can't please everyone politically speaking. I'm speaking of movies and their messages, and if it’s woke to let someone else have an important position in a movie other than “white” males then I'm for it, it depends on how the characters are written.

“STAR WARS is supposed to be about the battle between GOOD vs EVIL.”

Yeah, but you can put in different messages into that if you want. There are many Star Wars fans and I bet that you would get different answers to what Star Wars is about, if you would ask different people.