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Frantz

MemberOvomorph12/17/2011
from alienprequelnews.com ( the main source for news right now ) Icelandic blog Filmophilia has just published what I believe to be the most interesting interview with Ridley Scott so far regarding Prometheus. They caught up with the director back in July when the Prometheus crew were shooting the last scenes of the movie in Iceland. In this interview, Sir Ridley gives a little bit more than his stock replies and even elaborates a bit more on the connection to his 1979 masterpiece Alien, as well as some of his thoughts about the Space Jockey. I suggest you head over to Filmophilia to read the entire article, but here's a couple of interesting points from the interview. When asked about the link to Alien, he reiterates the DNA connection, but also gives us a little more to think about: " I mean, you could actually say, and there’s a quote I did, a pretty good quote: By the end of the third act you start to realize there’s a DNA of the very first alien, but none of the subsequent aliens. To tell you what that is is a pity, and I’m not going to tell you, because it’s actually pretty good, pretty organic to the process and to the original. But we go back, we don’t go forward." Exactly one year ago we heard that HR Giger was somehow involved with Prometheus, which at the time was known only as The Untitled Alien Prequel, but we weren't given much detail about exactly what he was working on. With Giger's name not showing up on the IMDB credits, and with the Alien Prequel turning into more of its own thing, people began to speculate whether or not he was still attached. With the some of the leaked photos we've seen from the set, there's no doubt Giger has added some of his magic touch to the designs, and Sir Ridley confirms: "I showed him what we were doing, showed him the story and he liked it a lot. So he’s doing a little bit of work for me. He’s been doing some murals, big murals, which we’ll see in almost one of the first chambers we encounter when we land where we’re gonna go." It's quite obvious now that the Space Jockey from Alien will have play some part in Prometheus, and the fans have been busy discussing on forums what this strange being actually is. "... I always figured it’s a weapon, and I always figured that [the ship in the first Alien] was a carrier of weapons. Therefore, who is that, inside that suit? That wasn’t a skeleton, that was a suit. And if you open up the suit, what do you get inside it? And why were they going, where were they going?" A few months back I wrote how Ridley Scott had hinted that the Prometheus story is somewhat inspired by Erich von Daniken's theories regarding the so called ancient astronauts. In this interview he gives a little more detail about "Everyone thinks he [von Daniken] was out of his mind, you know, for number one, 'we are the creation of gods', if you go back to the 19th century anthropologists, Darwin, and say if you go look at Darwin for the moment and look at the Darwinian idea, the Darwinian thesis, which is seemingly very logical. You know, you’re going from something that gradually comes to two legs and gradually here we are. Then you can go beyond that and you look more mathematically at the feasibility of how we’re able to be sitting here, right now, in this place. I’m talking to you, and I’ve got this thing (he picks up his cellphone) which looks like Star Trek. This is “Beam me up, Scotty”-stuff. You wouldn’t have believed this thing could exist thirty years ago. ... It’s entirely ridiculous to believe that we are the only ones here. That’s why my first thought is that for us to be sitting here right now is actually mathematically impossible without a lot of assistance. Who assisted? Who made the right decisions? Who was pushing and pulling to adjust us? That’s a fair question." The interview goes on to discuss Prometheus star Noomi Rapace, and drawing comparisons with Sigourney Weaver's heroine character from the Alien series, before one final question: will the original alien (some refer to it as the xenomorph) appear in Prometheus? "No. Absolutely not. They squeezed it dry. He (the xenomorph) did very well. (He laughs) He survived, he’s now in Disneyland in Orlando, and no way am I going back there. How did he end up in Disneyland? I saw him in Disneyland, Jesus Christ!" There have been a couple of reports earlier from people claiming to have seen the alien on set at Pinewood, but with Ridley's final answer here it seems these reports were either false or the sources saw something that just looked like the familiar alien. I also speculated once that these aliens might have been decoys to keep any possible spies away from the real stuff which they don't want us to know about. If you're still here I suggest you head on over to Filmophilia to read the entire interview right now.
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MemberOvomorph12/17/2011
Answers a lot of questions that I felt I kind of knew a while back. Especially the Space Jockey Skeleton actually being a suit and the Alien Xeno not being in the film. Like I said when I first started coming here. Scott has maintained since the announcement of this version of the film, that the Aliens we know will not be in this. He consistently speaks of the DNA and I have always felt what he meant was just that. Small pieces to connect it to the first film, not exactly the Xeno. Obviously the derelict and the Space Jockey have something to do with this story. Some of the pieces are starting to officially come together. I just hope a real trailer surfaces soon.

Frantz

MemberOvomorph12/17/2011
i think that regarding the xeno he play a bit with words ,,the interviewer shouldt have asked " the original alien " but " there will be the same kind of xenomorph ?" ... im not that happy that the original space jockey is only a suit .. :( also giger involvement in the project seems very limited ... :( i like all the other things ...

Agent Mothman

MemberOvomorph12/17/2011
Yeah I agree I am a little depressed that the SJ is just a suit. It kinda just ruined a bit of the mysteriousness of it. Oh well I hope what ever is in the suit is not a human or some human looking alien, I am so sick of those!

Alien

MemberOvomorph12/17/2011
sj being a suit with the possibility of it being a human or human looking alien and the fact that no Xenos what so ever... not even a xeno jockey will make an appearence really dissapoints me... :( oh well im still gonna see it, but i still kinda dissappointed.

Alien

MemberOvomorph12/17/2011
sj being a suit with the possibility of it being a human or human looking alien and the fact that no Xenos what so ever... not even a xeno jockey will make an appearence really dissapoints me... :( oh well im still gonna see it, but i still kinda dissappointed.

alteredstate.

MemberOvomorph12/17/2011
Did anyone read the interview with neville page the effects designer for prometheus and numerous other films. He stated that he has never had to work harder on any production he has been involved on so that's a promiseing when you consider his prolific background including avatar , clash of the titans, green lantern, etc and loads of other films i cant be bothered to mention, so have faith and dont belive everything you read theres a lot of disinformation deliberatly put out to keep the project under wraps and protect the film from spoilers and speculation i have every faith this is going to blow your minds and be an instant classic . Naomi rapace has declared that in the adr she has done for the film shes seen a lot of the finnished article and it looks incredible.

Frantz

MemberOvomorph12/17/2011
Alien arent you a bit exhagerating ??? maybe inside that suit there is something even more horrible ...and maybe he referred to THAT alien ...not the race in general ... i dont think we will see keanu reeves nude emerging from that "suit" ..i think that the problem was that the SJ was fused with the chair and very very big so they had to skip that problems ( a very big SJ would have made something like the cavern troll in LOTR ... ) what we have is some sort of a "trailer" and is AWESOME ...

Frantz

MemberOvomorph12/17/2011
integral interview Erlingur Grétar Einarsson: What [part of Prometheus] are you shooting in Iceland? What role in the film does it “play”? Ridley Scott: It’s, you know, whenever you’re talking about science-fiction, it always sounds pretentious or corny. It’s actually “The beginning of time”. But I think we’ve got it right. (He laughs) So, it will be a pretty good beginning of time. EGE: [The Prometheus’ cast] is a very impressive line-up. RS: Yeah, you know, we were staying with the notion that there were no stars in the first film [1979's Alien]. I think it was [Weaver‘s] first film. They were not stars. EGE: Skerritt had some name recognition, maybe at the same level Fassbender is now. RS: Yeah. I didn’t make that as a plan, you know. Sometimes it’s better when you have a story, where you’re gonna lose people during the story, that they are lesser known. Of course, Charlize [Theron] is very well known, but she hangs around ‘till the end. (He laughs) EGE: So you are linking this directly with the Alien films? RS: Not at all. EGE: Not at all? RS: No. EGE: No? RS: I mean, you could actually say, and there’s a quote I did, a pretty good quote: By the end of the third act you start to realize there’s a DNA of the very first alien, but none of the subsequent aliens. To tell you what that is is a pity, and I’m not going to tell you, because it’s actually pretty good, pretty organic to the process and to the original. But we go back, we don’t go forward. EGE: The official synopsis from Fox says that this revolves around the “Alien Gods”, the “Space Jockey” from the first film. RS: Yeah, so there you have that. I was always amazed that, I mean, I’ve only done two science-fictions, but I was always amazed that no one asked who the hell the Space Jockey was. He wasn’t even called the Space Jockey. During the film they started to call it the Space Jockey. I don’t know who started that one off. I always thought it was amazing that no one ever asked who he was, and why was he there? What was all that about? I sat thinking about this for a while and thought, well, there’s a story! And the other four [films] missed it! So, here it is. EGE: Will you be using any of Giger’s original design for this film? RS: We’ve had a pretty good relationship with Giger for many years. I was the first one to go see him in Switzerland, and persuade him to get on a plane. He wouldn’t get on a plane, because he was afraid of flying. And he finally came to Shepperton. He was with me for eleven months. Never went into town, stayed over a pub in Shepperton. Very non-Giger, not exotic. You’d think he’d be in a suite in a hotel. He’s in a pub. He was in a room over a pub, and he was very happy there. And yeah, I brought him in, I showed him what we were doing, showed him the story and he liked it a lot. So he’s doing a little bit of work for me. He’s been doing some murals, big murals, which we’ll see in almost one of the first chambers we encounter when we land where we’re gonna go. EGE: The tone of the film, according to the official synopsis, and the tone of the premise, sounds a lot more mythological than the original Alien films. The original Alien films revolved around industrial settings and premises and social situations rather than anything mythological. RS: The original Alien was a pretty savage engine. I’ve always said it was a C-movie done in an A-way. Because it was the Old Dark House, you know. Seven people in the Old Dark House, and they’re all going to die. (He laughs) And they’re gonna die horribly and that in itself is a tricky exercise, because you can do it well, you can do it badly. But somehow that worked. It turned out pretty well. I think one of the reasons why I’ve never gone back to science-fiction, even though I’ve often noodled around, thought about it, looked for story, looked for material, is that there’s a nice purity to the original Alien. It’s fairly pure. And this one does actually raise all kinds of other questions, because if someone could, a being, could be as monstrously clever to create something like we experienced in the very first one – I always figured it’s a weapon, and I always figured that [the ship in the first Alien] was a carrier of weapons. Therefore, who is that, inside that suit? That wasn’t a skeleton, that was a suit. And if you open up the suit, what do you get inside it? And why were they going, where were they going? Also, I ring off of… there’s a writer, Erich von Däniken. One of his most famous books was called Chariots of the Gods. Everyone thinks he was out of his mind, you know, for number one, “we are the creation of gods”, if you go back to the 19th century anthropologists, Darwin, and say if you go look at Darwin for the moment and look at the Darwinian idea, the Darwinian thesis, which is seemingly very logical. You know, you’re going from something that gradually comes to two legs and gradually here we are. Then you can go beyond that and you look more mathematically at the feasibility of how we’re able to be sitting here, right now, in this place. I’m talking to you, and I’ve got this thing (he picks up his cellphone) which looks like Star Trek. This is “Beam me up, Scotty”-stuff. You wouldn’t have believed this thing could exist thirty years ago. [Editor's note: And here is where he really takes off:] Things have changed so dramatically that you can start looking at the idea that all our history can be completely wrong and misguided. Because at some point someone has to put a statement down and have their own thesis, have their own theories. That was then later accepted or later is gradually dissolved and re-drawn or reworked. So now you’ve got the whole changed attitude with NASA, the church and I think even Hawking. Over the last thirty years have gone from “It’s highly unlikely that there’s anyone else in our galaxy, any other force, being in our galaxy,” to now, where they’re conceding that there are probably thousands of different lifeforms in this galaxy. And I think Hawking actually said, “Let’s hope they don’t visit.” And I think the church has conceded as well that it would not be against the word of God if we conceded that there are other lifeforms in this galaxy. So, if you take that out, then the door is open. To me, it’s entirely logical. It’s entirely ridiculous to believe that we are the only ones here. That’s why my first thought is that for us to be sitting here right now is actually mathematically impossible without a lot of assistance. Who assisted? Who made the right decisions? Who was pushing and pulling to adjust us? That’s a fair question. EGE: Prometheus has the Brandywine production tag on it [a Production slate only used for Alien films since 1979] Do you feel any pressure going back to that world? RS: No. Not at all, really. I had a good time making it. They gave me an opportunity to make it. I’d only done The Duellists at that point which was actually a pretty good film. Then someone had bizarrely seen it at Cannes and thought, “I wonder if he wants to do science-fiction,” which couldn’t be more different. I read it and thought, “Wow! This is fantastic,” because at that moment I was engaged in a lot of, I was reading a lot Jean Giraud’s “Moebius” stuff. The great French illustrator, beyond everything. I’d been looking at him just with the view to, you know, one day I wanted to do science-fiction. I’d seen Stanley Kubrick’s 2001 and that for me was certainly a door opening. You go, “Wow, that works,” and what am I gonna do? So, I happened to be looking at Moebius’ stuff, just out of interest, because I’m a really… I can really draw and paint. I was really influenced by what I saw, but didn’t know where to apply it. When I read the Alien script, I just saw Moebius all the way, and I said, “I’ll do it! I know how to do it!” I was in Hollywood, and we sat for 22 hours straight. “Do you want to change it?” – “Nope.” – “What do you want to do?” – “Shoot it.” That was it. Bingo. People were saying, “Let’s rewrite the third act, that is a disaster.” I said, “I’ll do it.” Once you’re doing it, you can adjust it. EGE: Do you see Noomi [Rapace] as something of a successor to Sigourney? RS: Yeah, I mean, they’re quite different women. Sigourney, to start with, is 6’1’’ in stocking feet, and Noomi insists that she is 5’1’’ in stocking feet. (He laughs) I look at a lot of foreign movies, and unfortunately a lot of mainstream movies aren’t terribly good. You know. (He laughs) The most influential for me are the new ones around the corner, and I look at a lot of foreign films and a lot of Scandinavian films. The Scandinavians have a very good touch for making movies, you guys (Icelanders) as well. I saw Dragon Tattoo a year ago, the first one. And, “Wow, who is that?” and from that I said, “This is the girl that’s going to do the film.” She came to L.A. and I met with her, and discovered that she’s in fact extraordinarily posh, as opposed to punk. So there was a real actress. A real actress, very, very good. So, I don’t know, she will just do great. EGE: She has this same fire that Sigourney brought, as well. RS: I would say that Noomi’s even more volatile and passionate. And sure, she looks good. But the combination of that and intelligence is a great combination. EGE: Final question. I have a feeling what the answer will be, but many want to know. Will we see the original xenomorph in Prometheus? RS: No. Absolutely not. They squeezed it dry. He (the xenomorph) did very well. (He laughs) He survived, he’s now in Disneyland in Orlando, and no way am I going back there. How did he end up in Disneyland? I saw him in Disneyland, Jesus Christ!

Alien

MemberOvomorph12/17/2011
The SJ suit thing, im going off from a combination of some of the things i seen in some movies, im not stating anything to be a fact, im just saying it raises the posibility. As for the xeno, more likely there might not even be a xeno just from the recent articles. Anyway I still think the movie will be good, im still gonna go see it. As for exagerating? i dont think i was, im just speaking my mind... thats all... the sj suit thing is what mainly got my attention. I just hope like what Agent Mothman posted up there earlier that it aint human/human looking alien.

Batchpool

MemberFacehugger12/17/2011
I get the feeling that when the word 'epic' has been used, and especially in the case of Prometheus, its usage is going to be well justified. I have my own theories as to what the storyline may turn out to be, but I'll just have to wait and see. What I have noticed is the reference to 'The beginning of time' (hmmm Iceland). A good reference point in earth history would be the Ice Age. To then have a story that connects the past to the future whilst taking in some of von Däniken's concepts has got to be epic. If there is anything I have noticed about Ridley's film making is that there is a fantastic sense of historic fact, science fact, and an ability to be ahead of the curve with technology. I think that most references that have been made to Alien are just a mere thin crust to a large pie. The real meat is going to be a lot to digest, even though some ingredients have been hinted at.

artyoh

MemberOvomorph12/18/2011
I'm not bothered by "no xenomorphs" in the least. The original "Alien" was a very good, essentially traditional monster movie that doesn't need a re-tread. Which is potentially far more dangerous and frightening, a single bioweapon, or the advanced intelligence which created it?

Tec-B

MemberOvomorph12/18/2011
yeah i agree, definitely don't want a retread of old ground. The xenomorphs and Ripley were done to death, time for aomething new

Biomechanic

MemberOvomorph12/18/2011
Xenowho? I'm in this for the spacejockey and the giant head.

Mentos

MemberOvomorph12/18/2011
I have no problem with the suit; hopefully we can get a peek inside. As for the Xenos...thank god! We need something fresh! BUT I don't like the idea that they are merely weapons that got out of control, I'm really hoping they didn't run with that idea.

artyoh

MemberOvomorph12/18/2011
The very first thing I wondered about after seeing the original "Alien" back in the day, was: who were the giants and what was their relationship to the xenomorph? The apparent story we're getting ( that they had something to do with [i]our[/i] creation ) would never have occurred to me, but I'm glad to finally be getting some answers. I [i]will[/i] be a bit disappointed if the "space jockeys" turn out to have a humanoid morphology. I was definitely hoping for something much more bizarre and "alien." Then again, during the intervening decades since the first movie's release, we've seen any number of strange forms in other sci-fi flicks, so maybe this will work, even if the jockeys [i]do[/i] look more like something from Jack and the Beanstalk tricked out in space-suits, than Giger inspired monstrosities.

Spartacus

MemberOvomorph12/18/2011
man the moment i read the original script by Spaiths I flipped out and knew it was the real deal ! Everyone thought I was nuts but I LOVED that script. I am glad it got changed/enhanced a bit too so now I will not know what's coming next!!!
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